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Heyo I'm [[sega:User:Saad|Saad]], hopefully this wiki gets as active as its sister sites because this is fascinating :p | Heyo I'm [[sega:User:Saad|Saad]], hopefully this wiki gets as active as its sister sites because this is fascinating :p | ||
+ | If anyone stumbles upon this and thinks they can do a better job in any of the following sections, be my guest :p. This is only the page where i'm thinking out loud, i aint calling dibs on anything | ||
− | == | + | ==Current Focus (probably)== |
+ | ===NEC's computers=== | ||
+ | A page for every NEC model (that we could care about) seems like a much more doable goal (and also as important as every game): | ||
+ | * [[TK-80]]: definitively important, fully covered now! only lacks peripheral and internal component coverage | ||
+ | * [[PC-8000 series]]: fully covered, only lacks peripheral and internal component coverage | ||
+ | * [[PC-6000 series]]: (mostly) fully covered, lacks peripheral and internal component coverage and THE IRAQI VERSION | ||
+ | * [[PC-8800 series]]: lacks a few models, lacks peripheral and internal component coverage. | ||
+ | * [[PC-8800 series]]: lacks a few models, lacks peripheral and internal component coverage. | ||
+ | * [[PC-6600 series]]: fully covered, lacks peripheral and internal component coverage. | ||
+ | * [[PC-2000]]: nothing | ||
+ | * [[PC-8200]]/[[PC-8300]]/[[PC-8400]]/[[PC-8500]]: nothing | ||
+ | * [[PC-100]]: lacks peripheral and internal component coverage. | ||
+ | * [[PC-9800 series]]: fully covered, peripheral coverage only | ||
+ | * [[PC-H98 series]]: nothing | ||
+ | * [[PC-9821 series]]: so much to do | ||
+ | Others: | ||
+ | * [[APC series]]: nothing | ||
+ | * [[Epson Clones]]: nothing | ||
+ | * [[DualStation]]: nothing | ||
+ | * [[N5200]]: nothing | ||
+ | * [[FC-9800]]/[[SV-9801]]/[[SC-9801]]/[[RC-9801]]/[[OP-98]]...: nothing | ||
+ | Probably not important/not currently important | ||
+ | * Mainframes and PC-98NX | ||
+ | ==Stuff for later== | ||
+ | ===Neo Kobe=== | ||
+ | I should just update my research flow to always start with the Neo Kobe collections because everything that ever existed is probably in there[https://archive.org/details/NeoKobe-NecPc-98012017-11-17]. Anyways, reminder (to future me probably) to mirror all the stuff on here[https://ia800100.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/22/items/NeoKobe-NecPc-98012017-11-17/Miscellaneous.zip] | ||
+ | ===Main Stuff=== | ||
+ | ====PC-98 Hardware Documentation==== | ||
+ | Seems like a good place to start[https://www.pc-9800.net/index.htm] [http://classic.pasocomclub.co.jp/datas/pc98siryou.html] | ||
− | + | Its gonna take a while to understand the hardware side wont it [https://radioc.web.fc2.com/] | |
− | + | Getting more ideas on how to improve our hardware coverage [https://web.archive.org/web/20141210034057/http://www.geocities.jp/retro_zzz/machines/nec/9801/mdl98cpu.html] [https://web.archive.org/web/20030107001152/http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA011804/index.htm] | |
− | |||
− | == | + | things to mirror |
− | Fact check the release date first obviously, but a future to-do list of possible releases on each of the missing days | + | [https://archive.org/details/@upd780?page=3] |
+ | [https://archive.org/details/pc-9800-tdb-cd] | ||
+ | [https://archive.org/details/pc9800supplement1987] | ||
+ | |||
+ | Dip switches :p[http://ematei.s602.xrea.com/miyabi/data/dip.htm#D] | ||
+ | |||
+ | This guy has some great scans of the covers and backs of those model catalogues, could be a good fill in untill scans of the full catalogues are available [https://ratscats.client.jp/catalog.html] | ||
+ | |||
+ | still trying to understand the later sound boards [http://retropc.net/yasuma/V2/PC/sound-sub-c.html] | ||
+ | this looks like a good list to use in finishin that sound board page [http://hamlin.html.xdomain.jp/SOUND/SOUND98/SOUND98.htm] | ||
+ | =====non-PC-98 Hardware Documentation===== | ||
+ | list of peripherals and accessories for the PC-8801 [https://databug2210.blogspot.com/1979/08/nec-pc-8001.html] | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====PC-98 Hardware Documentation 2: International Edition==== | ||
+ | [https://twitter.com/Flyingharuka/status/1421345236404473859/photo/1] Chinese Versions of NEC home computers | ||
+ | |||
+ | * PC-100 ----> ZD-3100 | ||
+ | * PC-9801 ---> ZD-3000/JH-3000B | ||
+ | * PC-8801 ---> ZD-2500 | ||
+ | * PC-8001 ---> ZD-2000 | ||
+ | and according to this [https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA351631.pdf], there's also ZD-1110, ZD-1220 units; perhaps they're the pc-6001 and 6001 MkII? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APC_series] The APC series on the American side, more N5200 than PC98; but still. Specifically the APC III which seems to be an American PC-9801, even has something similar to the PC-9801-26(K) [https://archive.org/details/creativecomputing-1985-02/page/n65/mode/2up]. | ||
+ | |||
+ | MORE STUFF ON THE AMERICAN SIDE;BOTH the PC-88 and PC-98 Series also made it overseas??? PC-8801mkIIAR[https://twitter.com/morian/status/625152385946488832/photo/1] and PC-9801VM2E[https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1986-11/page/n375/mode/2up?view=theater] respectively. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====PC-98 Game Documentation==== | ||
+ | [http://gontajin.s151.xrea.com/][http://fullmotionvideo.free.fr/screen/!credits.html]Closest thing to a comprehensive list of games for the PC-98, the second link's probably more useful :p | ||
+ | |||
+ | [https://pastebin.com/F94FWhZP] [http://chaser.my.coocan.jp/guide/guide_ref.htm] [http://gyusyabu.ddo.jp/MP3/1980.html] [https://archive.org/details/@greegarr] | ||
+ | Obviously compare it with the internal lists that are alr on here :v | ||
+ | |||
+ | [https://seesaawiki.jp/akagai_pakkuri/] Doujin coverage is lacking, this fills that niche | ||
+ | |||
+ | [http://www.pcengine.jp/a77.htm] accidentally deleted this link from the list down under, it's been extremely invaluable as a jumping off point so lemme just put it back in here (its PC Engine focused but no one will notice) | ||
+ | |||
+ | [https://archive.org/details/PC98ManualPackV.20100629] Random stumble, may or may not contain useful stuff. | ||
+ | =====Emulation===== | ||
+ | Taking a detour from what this section usually tries to cover, but i was thinking about emulators and our coverage of games; The ePC-9801 series of emulators[http://takeda-toshiya.my.coocan.jp/] covers specific models. Seeing that no one who edits this wiki has actual hardware, i think learning how to set this up right could do wonders for our compatibility coverage. (not to mention our emulation coverage on the wiki is nearly non-existant, time to fix it :p) | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Redistribution of Games==== | ||
+ | This one is a headache; some games were resold under many different brands including: APROS, CAV, SOFTBOX, and others i havent seen but were mentioned in this thread [http://fullmotionvideo.free.fr/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1355&p=13200&hilit=apros#p13200]..., and who knows when they were released. But they sure are within the scope of this wiki so wooooooo | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====The RPG Maker Program and their Games==== | ||
+ | ascii has like 5 different programs they made to allow people to make RPGs easily on NEC PCs, one of them was even released on the PC88 apparently! A lot of these games didnt get physical releases and were available through magazine releases or freely online, so yeah, another thing to keep an eye out for. | ||
+ | |||
+ | I've dedicated nearly an entire day to track another PC 98 RPG Maker game, and i managed to find another title that isn't corpse party, and trying to run it was a nightmare! 0 information anywhere on the internet :v, but still within the wiki's scope so hooray | ||
+ | |||
+ | (Silly update on the remark above ^ turns out it was on Neo Kobe's archive after all :p) | ||
+ | {{gitem|Lost Sheep PC98 Title.PNG|}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | [https://archive.org/details/@retroprograms] stuff related to RPG Maker, Doujins, Disc mags and so much more | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===EVERYTHING ELSE=== | ||
+ | ====Game Center CX==== | ||
+ | [[Game Center CX]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Floppy Vending Machines==== | ||
+ | So... [https://download.file-hunter.com/Magazines/JP/Takeru%20Press/], this will need to be covered on the wiki eventually, but there's ''so little docummentation anywhere'', Takeru vending machines sold PC-98 games alongside other stuff and thats basically all i know at this point. | ||
+ | |||
+ | On this point again, I think i should probably mirror the issues Of Takeru Press/World on here, they're within the scope of the wiki if im not mistaken. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====The Touhou Games==== | ||
+ | They're probably the most important games released on the PC-98, alongside stuff like Doukyuusei and Yu-No. Will most definitely take my time to cover them, and i'm surprised there were no pages about any of the games yet! | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Unreleased games==== | ||
+ | * Imperial Force[http://www.pcengine.co.uk/HTML_Games/Imperial_Force.htm] meant for release on Jan 1994[https://archive.org/details/pc-engine-fan-december-1993/PC%20Engine%20Fan%20-%20December%201993%20%28Compressed%29/page/112/mode/2up?view=theater] | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Kisekae Set System==== | ||
+ | I've spent this entire day researching it and its '''fascinating''', the origin of all those flash dress up games lies here! But it's a confusing subject to cover, so i'll leave it for when i get a better idea. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Project EGG==== | ||
+ | There's like, 500 titles over there that are related to NEC's Consoles and Home Computers, not including ones that were delisted; this is gonna take a while. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Diskmags==== | ||
+ | LOGIN Sofcom's issues were already alluded to in some other articles relating to the RPG Maker section somewhere above this, but there's many many more that need to be covered; Disc Station is the main one probably, but there's some wacky ones like this one for the PC Engine[https://forums.nesdev.org/viewtopic.php?t=9996]. I think this counts as aftermarket? It was released in 2013 after all :p | ||
+ | |||
+ | On the Disc Station note, mirroring everything on here seems like a high priority[https://web.archive.org/web/20130728074633/http://slt.retroprograms.com/], not only that, but this blog points out some details that are extremely useful [http://rygames.sblo.jp/], apparently they also jumped to a different blog later on so maybe some new info on here, havent checked yet [https://rygames.minipop.cc/wp/]. Biggest shout out to Super! Lonely Terminal this is so much stuff that needs to be mirrored on top of other stuff that i already linked above[https://web.archive.org/web/20230829102911/http://retroprograms.com/] | ||
+ | |||
+ | ''ITS A NEVER ENDING ABYSS'', Project EGG revived Disc Station for a bit and distrubted some games in a quarterly | ||
+ | |||
+ | basis[https://www.amusement-center.com/project/egg/special/dsre_01/] | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Finish(ed) the NEC anniversary list== | ||
+ | Fact check the release date first obviously, but a future to-do list of possible releases on each of the missing days | ||
+ | |||
+ | UPDATE:I guess this is a vague todo list now :p | ||
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* ***still havent looked | * ***still havent looked | ||
* ****rerelease on a later console | * ****rerelease on a later console | ||
+ | ====Some Notes==== | ||
+ | * '''Anything on that list that cites pcengine.co.uk is probably wrong date wise''' | ||
− | + | * 機動戦士ガンダム アドバンスドオペレーション: May 6th or Feb 24th, i cant possibly confirm either one. | |
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− | * Jan | + | ===List of Days Finished:=== |
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+ | * Nov 14th | ||
+ | * Jan 2nd | ||
+ | * Sep 19th | ||
+ | * Sep 2nd | ||
+ | * Oct 8th | ||
+ | * Oct 17th | ||
+ | * June 14th | ||
+ | * May 10th | ||
+ | * March 7th | ||
+ | * March 10th | ||
+ | * Nov 7th | ||
+ | * Nov 14th | ||
+ | * July 21st | ||
+ | * Feb 6th | ||
+ | * Aug 18th | ||
+ | * Aug 16th | ||
+ | * June 9th | ||
+ | * April 14th | ||
* Feb 4th | * Feb 4th | ||
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* Feb 14th | * Feb 14th | ||
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− | * | + | * June 20th |
+ | * Aug 14th | ||
+ | * Aug 22nd | ||
+ | * Jan 11th | ||
* April 11th | * April 11th | ||
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− | * | + | * Nov 3rd |
* May 3rd | * May 3rd | ||
+ | * Jan 1st | ||
* May 5th | * May 5th | ||
* May 6th | * May 6th | ||
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* Dec 31st | * Dec 31st | ||
+ | ==Template test== | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{timeline | ||
+ | | title=History of the PC-9821 Series | ||
+ | | start=92 | ||
+ | | end=99 | ||
+ | | rows= | ||
+ | {{timelinerow|PC-9821|92|92}} | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{timeline | ||
+ | | title=PC-98 | ||
+ | | start=82 | ||
+ | | end=99 | ||
+ | | rows= | ||
+ | {{timelinerow|PC-9801|82|82}} | ||
+ | {{timelinerow|PC-9821|92|92}} | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{timeline | ||
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+ | | rows= | ||
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+ | {{timelinerow|PC-9801|82|82}} | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="bottomtemplate" align="center" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |class="bottomtemphead" colspan="29" | '''Sega Home Video Game Systems''' | ||
+ | |-class="bottomtemphead" style="font-size: 9pt;" | ||
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+ | |-style="font-size: 9pt;" | ||
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+ | |colspan="4" class="colour-bg-red" style="border: 1px solid #999;"|[[SG-1000 II]] | ||
+ | |colspan="5" class="colour-bg-yellow" style="border: 1px solid #999;"|[[Sega Mega Drive|Mega Drive]] | ||
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+ | | || || || || || || || || | ||
+ | |-style="font-size: 9pt;" | ||
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+ | | | ||
+ | |colspan="5" class="colour-bg-yellow" style="border: 1px solid #999;"|[[Genesis 3]] | ||
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+ | | | ||
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+ | |-style="font-size: 9pt;" | ||
+ | | || || ||colspan="4" class="colour-bg-orange" style="border: 1px solid #999;" |[[Sega Master System|Master System]] | ||
+ | |colspan="9" class="colour-bg-orange" style="border: 1px solid #999;" |[[Sega Master System|Master System II]] | ||
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+ | |-style="font-size: 9pt;" | ||
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+ | |colspan="3" class="colour-bg-red" style="border: 1px solid #999;" |[[Sega AI Computer|AI Computer]] | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |colspan="12" class="colour-bg-cyan" style="border: 1px solid #999;" |[[Sega Game Gear|Game Gear]] | ||
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+ | |colspan="6" class="colour-bg-redmagenta" style="border: 1px solid #999;" |[[Advanced Pico Beena|Beena]] | ||
+ | |} | ||
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+ | | title=History of the PC-8800 Series | ||
+ | | start=81 | ||
+ | | end=94 | ||
+ | | rows= | ||
+ | {{timelinerow|PC-8801|81|82 | ||
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+ | {{timelinerow|PC-9801 DO|89|89 | ||
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+ | }} | ||
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+ | <noinclude>[[Category:Navigational templates (miscellaneous)]]</noinclude> | ||
+ | |||
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Latest revision as of 13:01, 15 October 2024
Heyo I'm Saad, hopefully this wiki gets as active as its sister sites because this is fascinating :p
If anyone stumbles upon this and thinks they can do a better job in any of the following sections, be my guest :p. This is only the page where i'm thinking out loud, i aint calling dibs on anything
Contents
Current Focus (probably)
NEC's computers
A page for every NEC model (that we could care about) seems like a much more doable goal (and also as important as every game):
- TK-80: definitively important, fully covered now! only lacks peripheral and internal component coverage
- PC-8000 series: fully covered, only lacks peripheral and internal component coverage
- PC-6000 series: (mostly) fully covered, lacks peripheral and internal component coverage and THE IRAQI VERSION
- PC-8800 series: lacks a few models, lacks peripheral and internal component coverage.
- PC-8800 series: lacks a few models, lacks peripheral and internal component coverage.
- PC-6600 series: fully covered, lacks peripheral and internal component coverage.
- PC-2000: nothing
- PC-8200/PC-8300/PC-8400/PC-8500: nothing
- PC-100: lacks peripheral and internal component coverage.
- PC-9800 series: fully covered, peripheral coverage only
- PC-H98 series: nothing
- PC-9821 series: so much to do
Others:
- APC series: nothing
- Epson Clones: nothing
- DualStation: nothing
- N5200: nothing
- FC-9800/SV-9801/SC-9801/RC-9801/OP-98...: nothing
Probably not important/not currently important
- Mainframes and PC-98NX
Stuff for later
Neo Kobe
I should just update my research flow to always start with the Neo Kobe collections because everything that ever existed is probably in there[1]. Anyways, reminder (to future me probably) to mirror all the stuff on here[2]
Main Stuff
PC-98 Hardware Documentation
Seems like a good place to start[3] [4]
Its gonna take a while to understand the hardware side wont it [5]
Getting more ideas on how to improve our hardware coverage [6] [7]
Dip switches :p[11]
This guy has some great scans of the covers and backs of those model catalogues, could be a good fill in untill scans of the full catalogues are available [12]
still trying to understand the later sound boards [13] this looks like a good list to use in finishin that sound board page [14]
non-PC-98 Hardware Documentation
list of peripherals and accessories for the PC-8801 [15]
PC-98 Hardware Documentation 2: International Edition
[16] Chinese Versions of NEC home computers
- PC-100 ----> ZD-3100
- PC-9801 ---> ZD-3000/JH-3000B
- PC-8801 ---> ZD-2500
- PC-8001 ---> ZD-2000
and according to this [17], there's also ZD-1110, ZD-1220 units; perhaps they're the pc-6001 and 6001 MkII?
[18] The APC series on the American side, more N5200 than PC98; but still. Specifically the APC III which seems to be an American PC-9801, even has something similar to the PC-9801-26(K) [19].
MORE STUFF ON THE AMERICAN SIDE;BOTH the PC-88 and PC-98 Series also made it overseas??? PC-8801mkIIAR[20] and PC-9801VM2E[21] respectively.
PC-98 Game Documentation
[22][23]Closest thing to a comprehensive list of games for the PC-98, the second link's probably more useful :p
[24] [25] [26] [27] Obviously compare it with the internal lists that are alr on here :v
[28] Doujin coverage is lacking, this fills that niche
[29] accidentally deleted this link from the list down under, it's been extremely invaluable as a jumping off point so lemme just put it back in here (its PC Engine focused but no one will notice)
[30] Random stumble, may or may not contain useful stuff.
Emulation
Taking a detour from what this section usually tries to cover, but i was thinking about emulators and our coverage of games; The ePC-9801 series of emulators[31] covers specific models. Seeing that no one who edits this wiki has actual hardware, i think learning how to set this up right could do wonders for our compatibility coverage. (not to mention our emulation coverage on the wiki is nearly non-existant, time to fix it :p)
Redistribution of Games
This one is a headache; some games were resold under many different brands including: APROS, CAV, SOFTBOX, and others i havent seen but were mentioned in this thread [32]..., and who knows when they were released. But they sure are within the scope of this wiki so wooooooo
The RPG Maker Program and their Games
ascii has like 5 different programs they made to allow people to make RPGs easily on NEC PCs, one of them was even released on the PC88 apparently! A lot of these games didnt get physical releases and were available through magazine releases or freely online, so yeah, another thing to keep an eye out for.
I've dedicated nearly an entire day to track another PC 98 RPG Maker game, and i managed to find another title that isn't corpse party, and trying to run it was a nightmare! 0 information anywhere on the internet :v, but still within the wiki's scope so hooray
(Silly update on the remark above ^ turns out it was on Neo Kobe's archive after all :p)
[33] stuff related to RPG Maker, Doujins, Disc mags and so much more
EVERYTHING ELSE
Game Center CX
Floppy Vending Machines
So... [34], this will need to be covered on the wiki eventually, but there's so little docummentation anywhere, Takeru vending machines sold PC-98 games alongside other stuff and thats basically all i know at this point.
On this point again, I think i should probably mirror the issues Of Takeru Press/World on here, they're within the scope of the wiki if im not mistaken.
The Touhou Games
They're probably the most important games released on the PC-98, alongside stuff like Doukyuusei and Yu-No. Will most definitely take my time to cover them, and i'm surprised there were no pages about any of the games yet!
Unreleased games
Kisekae Set System
I've spent this entire day researching it and its fascinating, the origin of all those flash dress up games lies here! But it's a confusing subject to cover, so i'll leave it for when i get a better idea.
Project EGG
There's like, 500 titles over there that are related to NEC's Consoles and Home Computers, not including ones that were delisted; this is gonna take a while.
Diskmags
LOGIN Sofcom's issues were already alluded to in some other articles relating to the RPG Maker section somewhere above this, but there's many many more that need to be covered; Disc Station is the main one probably, but there's some wacky ones like this one for the PC Engine[37]. I think this counts as aftermarket? It was released in 2013 after all :p
On the Disc Station note, mirroring everything on here seems like a high priority[38], not only that, but this blog points out some details that are extremely useful [39], apparently they also jumped to a different blog later on so maybe some new info on here, havent checked yet [40]. Biggest shout out to Super! Lonely Terminal this is so much stuff that needs to be mirrored on top of other stuff that i already linked above[41]
ITS A NEVER ENDING ABYSS, Project EGG revived Disc Station for a bit and distrubted some games in a quarterly
basis[42]
Finish(ed) the NEC anniversary list
Fact check the release date first obviously, but a future to-do list of possible releases on each of the missing days
UPDATE:I guess this is a vague todo list now :p
Name | Developer | Date |
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Bakuretsu Hunter | [43] | Jan 1st |
ブルトン・レイ シナリオ集1 | システムソフト | Jan 2nd |
にょきにょき | SKYS | Jan 11th |
パワーダービー | コスモス・コンピュータ | Feb 4th |
バクタ | 姫屋ソフト | Feb 4th |
Saint Dragon | Jaleco[44] | Feb 6th* |
はっちゃけあやよさん4 おまけディスク | ハード | Feb 13th |
はっちゃけあやよさん4 セクシーオリンピック AYAYO'S LIVE AFFECTION | ハード | Feb 13th |
男の名はダイヤモンド (8 floppy disk) | Pis-TonSOFT | Feb 14th |
男の名はダイヤモンド (CD) | Pis-TonSOFT | Feb 14th |
ぽわぞん ~6人の魔女~ | トラッシュ | Feb 14th |
ジョーカー2 | バーディーソフト | Feb 14th |
花の記憶 第二章 | フォスター | Feb 14th |
エクドラード ~鏡の中の王国~ | ブラックパッケージ | Feb 14th |
101回目のアプローチショット | サンタ・フェ | March 7th |
官能教習 | テトラテック | March 7th |
エリートプラス | マイクロプローズジャパン | March 7th |
FUSHIGI NO KUNI NO TENSHI | ASIA SOFT LAB | March 10th[45] |
満開電飾 女の子データ集1号 | TAKERUソフト | March 10th |
レッドコブラ | イリュージョン | March 10th |
笑ゥせぇるすまん3 | コンパイル | March 10th |
宝魔ハンターライム 第10話 | サイレンス | March 10th |
サイバノイドアルファ プレミアム | ディー・オー | March 10th |
全日本美少女麻雀選手権大会 ハートでロン!! | ディー・オー | March 10th |
遊ディスクVol.8 サイバノイドアルファ遊ディスク版 | ディー・オー | March 10th |
シャムハト ザ ホーリーサークレット | データウエスト | March 10th |
サナトス | バーディーソフト | March 10th |
クレアスター | ボーステック株式会社 | March 10th |
ワンパラウォーズ2 | ミンク | March 10th |
レヴァリィ ~いざないの魔水晶~ | ライトスタッフ | March 10th |
七英雄物語 | 姫屋ソフト | March 10th |
みさとちゃんの夢日記 (CD) | アクティブ | April 11th |
みさとちゃんの夢日記 (5 Floppy Disks) | アクティブ | April 11th |
カンパニー | ジーエーエム | April 11th |
宝魔ハンターライム 第11話 | サイレンス | April 11th |
カナン ~約束の地~ GAOGAO!4th | フォア・ナイン | April 11th |
イフ 3 | アクティブ | April 14th |
タッグオブウォー | ザインソフト | April 14th |
失われた楽園 | シルキーズ | April 14th |
スクールガールズ | スクープ | April 14th |
誘惑 | ティーツー | April 14th |
銀河英雄伝説 | ボーステック株式会社 | April 14th |
誰も知らない・・・ 失われた記憶の扉 | エクシィーズ | April 18th |
ピンクソックス4 NOTE | ウェンディマガジン | April 18th |
うきうきアイランド (Floppy Disk 7) | フェアリーダスト | April 18th |
うきうきアイランド (CD) | フェアリーダスト | April 18th |
提督の決断 NOTE | 光栄 | April 18th |
スペースインベーダー ジ・オリジナルゲーム (Wii) | バーチャルコンソール | May 3rd**** |
機動戦士ガンダム アドバンスドオペレーション | ファミリーソフト | May 6th |
スーパージョシュア | パンサーソフトウェア | May 10th |
囲碁定石大将 | 昭代産業 | May 10th |
野球道 データブック'90 | 日本クリエイト | May 10th |
闘神都市2 | アリスソフト | May 19th |
DOR Part 2 | ディー・オー | May 19th |
パチンコパッケージ#1 | エムズ・アン・ティーズ | June 9th |
アリスの館3 | アリスソフト | June 9th |
時空査察官ハヤテ INSPECTOR | アルテシア | June 9th |
三国武将争覇 | イマジニア | June 9th |
鳳凰の如く ~乱世の覇者信長~ | イマジニア | June 9th |
ベルズアベニュー123 | ウェンディマガジン | June 9th |
リングアウト!! | ジックス | June 9th |
ローグアライアンス | スタークラフト | June 9th |
花の記憶 | フォスター | June 9th |
今日もキャンパス花乱満 修学旅行編 | コンピューターブレイン | June 13th |
太平洋の嵐2 シナリオ集 史実戦パック | ジーエーエム | June 13th |
宇宙海賊キャプテンハーロック | ファミリーソフト | June 13th |
パパラッチ | ユーミソフト | June 13th |
野球道PLUS 92年度バージョン | 日本クリエイト | June 13th |
キャンペーン版大戦略2 ユニット改造パック | システムソフト | June 14th
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トゥルーラブ 純愛物語 | ソフトウェアハウスぱせり | June 14th |
キャンペーン版大戦略2 ユニット改造パック | 総合ビジネスアシスト (ABA) | June 14th |
デンジェル | ミンク | June 14th |
文化祭 | ユーコム | June 14th |
キャンペーン版大戦略2 ユニット改造パック | 総合ビジネスアシスト (ABA) | June 14th |
JINMU DENSHŌ | WOLF TEAM / BIG CLUB | June 20th[46] |
大戦略3'90 拡張エディタディスク | TAKERUソフト | June 20th |
パペットショーPART1 | グレイト | June 20th |
ガナール星系史 | マイティークラフト | June 20th |
信長の野望 戦国群雄伝 NOTE | 光栄 | June 20th |
シュヴァルツシルトEX 鉄鎖の星群 | NECホームエレクトロニクス | July 18th |
ウルティマ4 アバタールの伝説 | ポニーキャニオン | July 18th |
ウルティマ4 アバタールの伝説 | ポニーキャニオン | July 18th |
DORADORAエモーション ~聖牌伝~ | カクテル・ソフト | July 21st |
ローマは一日にしてならず | アートディンク | July 21st |
大海令 南海の死闘 | アートディンク | July 21st |
ピンクソックス3 | ウェンディマガジン | July 21st |
プリンセスクエスト マージャンソード | シンクロニシティー | July 21st |
ファーランドストーリー 神々の遺産 | テイジーエル | July 21st |
デジャヴ ~引き裂かれた記憶~ | パック・イン・ビデオ | July 21st |
バトルチェス | パック・イン・ビデオ | July 21st |
Jリーグプロフェッショナルサッカー1995 | ビクター・エンタテイメント | July 21st |
レモンエンジェル | フェアリーダスト | July 21st |
銀河英雄伝説4 EX Kit | ボーステック株式会社 | July 21st |
銀河英雄伝説4 EX set | ボーステック株式会社 | July 21st |
ウルティマ5 Warriors of Destiny | ポニーキャニオン | July 21st |
項劉記 | 光栄 | July 21st |
SUPER野球道2 1995版 | 日本クリエイト | July 21st |
ショーダウン | ペパーミント・Kids | Aug 14th |
ピンボール・ピンボール2 | 日本ソフテック | Aug 14th |
D.P.S SG | アリスソフト | Aug 15th |
クレセントムーンがぁる | アリスソフト | Aug 15th |
大魔界村 (PS3) | ゲームアーカイブス | Aug 18th**** |
戦国麻雀 | ドリームライブラリ | Aug 18th**** |
パワーリーグ | ドリームライブラリ | Aug 18th**** |
桃太郎伝説外伝 第1集 | ドリームライブラリ | Aug 18th**** |
対局 三連星 | 日本囲碁ソフト | Aug 22nd |
現代大戦略EX アドバンスマップ集3 | SKYS | Sep 2nd |
サティア | アーヴォリオ | Sep 2nd |
美少女雀士ムウ | 塚本吉彦事務所 | Sep 2nd |
グランプリサーカス2 | ウエストサイド | Oct 8th |
ヌーク2 レミーの逆襲 | ボンびいボンボン! | Oct 8th |
エンジェルハイロウ (Floppy Disk 5) | アクティブ | Oct 17th |
エンジェルハイロウ (CD) | アクティブ | Oct 17th |
グレイストンサーガ外伝 動乱の魔都 | ペガサスジャパン | Nov 3rd |
VIPER-F40 | ソニア | Nov 7th |
ドラゴン創世記 | バショウハウス | Nov 7th |
極 定石集 | ログ | Nov 7th |
Super D.P.S | アリスソフト | Nov 14th |
[47] | ? | Dec 30th |
? | ? | Dec 31st** |
- *(does this count? its part of a compilation and released on the switch)
- **I'm not confident i'll find anyting on this day
- ***still havent looked
- ****rerelease on a later console
Some Notes
- Anything on that list that cites pcengine.co.uk is probably wrong date wise
- 機動戦士ガンダム アドバンスドオペレーション: May 6th or Feb 24th, i cant possibly confirm either one.
List of Days Finished:
- Nov 14th
- Jan 2nd
- Sep 19th
- Sep 2nd
- Oct 8th
- Oct 17th
- June 14th
- May 10th
- March 7th
- March 10th
- Nov 7th
- Nov 14th
- July 21st
- Feb 6th
- Aug 18th
- Aug 16th
- June 9th
- April 14th
- Feb 4th
- Feb 13th
- Feb 14th
- April 18th
- June 20th
- Aug 14th
- Aug 22nd
- Jan 11th
- April 11th
- June 13th
- Nov 3rd
- May 3rd
- Jan 1st
- May 5th
- May 6th
- May 19th
- July 11th
- July 18th
- Aug 15th
- Dec 30th
- Dec 31st
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